Rick Archer and Julia Mossbridge delve into Consciousness and AI. Teaching AI to love, the physics of unconditional love, and telepathy with non-speaking autistic people all come together in this lively Buddha at the Gas Pump conversation.
In this wide-ranging dialogue, Rick and Julia explore unconditional love as a real, foundational force in the universe and its implications for consciousness, time, technology, trauma, and disclosure. Julia describes her working model of universal love as “that which connects,” a fundamental force more basic than space, time, matter, and energy. She explains how unconditional love is the human emotional and motivational state that arises when we become directly aware of this ever-present universal love, and why that experience paradoxically makes us more motivated to improve the world even though “nothing needs to change.” Along the way, she and Rick unpack the difference between unconditional and conditional love, the pitfalls of spiritual bypassing, and the limits of “purification” models in spirituality and healing.
The conversation then turns to the ethics and possibilities of “loving AI” and asks the question, ” Can we create AI systems and robots that genuinely support human well-being and help people access unconditional love, instead of amplifying our polarisation and fear?”
Julia shares the origins of the Loving AI project, her work on Socratic GPT tools for critical thinking, and her leadership in efforts to bring more feminine and marginalised voices into AI, robotics, cognitive science, and consciousness research, including The Synapse women’s conference. Another major theme is time and precognition.
Drawing on her neuroscience background, Julia discusses empirical work on precognition and self-transcendence, including how difficult life circumstances can sometimes push people into profound, love-filled states in which they recognise themselves as “the flame, not the candle.” The conversation also dives into “The Telepathy Tapes” and Julia’s research with non-speaking autistic people who communicate via letterboards and keyboards. She outlines why equating speech with intelligence is scientifically and ethically untenable, and how spontaneous telepathy, “the Hill,” and rich inner lives in non-speaking autistic individuals challenge mainstream assumptions about mind, communication, and consciousness.
In the latter part of the interview, Julia talks about her book “Have a Nice Disclosure,” which reframes disclosure not just as governments revealing secrets about advanced programs or possible non-human intelligences, but as an inner process of truth-telling, healing, and reconciliation. She and Rick explore how collective and personal shadow material is surfacing globally, why genuine disclosure must happen in the heart as well as in institutions, and how unconditional love can hold even the darkest aspects of our history.
To read more of Julia’s work, go to juliamossbridge.com
Articles mentioned in the interview:
- On the Inalienable Right to Communicate — However You Can
- Beyond the Warrior Ethos: Dr. Julia Mossbridge on Self-Transcendence and the Future of Military Service
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Interview with Rick Archer, Interview recorded May 3, 2026.
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